I remember reading 17 magazine as a younger-than-17 year old and the advice it would give on how to win over your crush as I read Rav Hisda’s advice on today’s daf. This is 3rd century we are talking about, but it seems some of this advice is still doled out today to young women wanting to entice their men.
Rav Ḥisda said to his daughters: Be modest before your husbands; do not eat bread before your husbands, lest you eat too much and be demeaned in their eyes.
Is this why so many women don’t really eat their food on first dates? Why at so many meetings there is food put out but the women don’t touch it? That always confused me as I am one to clean my plate and then clean my husbands if he doesn’t . . .
Similarly, he advised: Do not eat vegetables at night, as vegetables cause bad breath (or I would guess – give you gas). Do not eat dates at night and do not drink beer at night, as these loosen the bowels. And do not relieve yourself in the place where your husbands relieve themselves, so that they will not be revolted by you.
Yep. Add to the myth that girls don’t fart and don’t poop. But as the popular childhood book says, “Everybody Poops.”
And when a person calls at the door seeking to enter, do not say: Who is it, in the masculine form, but rather: Who is it, in the feminine form. Avoid creating the impression that you have dealings with other men.
Don’t let him get jealous! Protect his ego ladies.
Here’s my favorite little slice of advice:
In order to demonstrate the value of modesty to his daughters, Rav Ḥisda held a pearl in one hand and a clod of earth in the other. The pearl he showed them immediately, and the clod of earth, he did not show them until they were upset due to their curiosity, and then he showed it to them. This taught them that a concealed object is more attractive than one on display, even if it is less valuable.
Rashi reads and interprets this passage completely differently from the gloss given above (as interpreted by the Ritva and conveyed by Steinsaltz in the translation). Rashi reads it as if Rav Hisda is giving pretty graphic sex advice. He reads it as Rav Hisda telling his daughters to let the husband hold the breast in one hand (that’s the pearl) and then wait until the husband is in agony to let him put his hand in “that other place.”
Both understandings speak to the value of yearning and how yearning increases our pleasure.
While I will refrain from going into my own sex-talk, I think about how our society is in general – we demand instant gratification. We want to see our photos immediately, to eat when we are hungry, to do everything when we feel. There is something to waiting, to anticipation, that we are missing. When the house smells delicious and your mouth waters but you won’t be able to enjoy the food for another hour . . . the food tastes even better. When we have to work for things, we value them more. When we have time to yearn, we can appreciate more.
Oh, Rav Hisda. I don’t know who read you correctly, Rashi or Ritva, but maybe this is a piece of good advice.
