War, huh, good God y’all. What is it good for? Absolutely nothing. (Edwin Starr)
My son asked me today: why is it that we don’t ear leather on Yom Kippur? We discussed how we get leather from killing one of God’s creatures. The last thing we want to do on Yom Kippur, is remind God about how violent we are. Then I went to read today’s daf which begins with a discussion of those who have to break the Shabbat limits in order to save a life. What happens when they are done with their mission? Can they come back home? What if it’s outside of the 2000 cubits? And we read:
Rav Yehuda said that Rav said: We must not infer from the mishna that they may go home even if they went out more than two thousand cubits from their limit, but rather that they may return with their weapons to their original locations, provided that they are within two thousand cubits. As it was taught in the Tosefta: At first those returning from a rescue mission would place their weapons in the first house that they encountered upon their return, i.e., the house nearest the wall, to avoid carrying on Shabbat any more than necessary. Once, their enemies noticed that they were no longer carrying their weapons, and they chased after them; and the defenders entered the house to take up their weapons and fight, and their enemies entered after them, causing great confusion. In the chaos, the defenders began to push one another, and they killed more of each other than their enemies killed of them. At that time the Sages instituted that they should return to their locations, i.e., their destinations, with their weapons.
So, we get an image of Jewish defenders rushing out to save lives and abandoning their weapons as soon as possible by stowing them in the nearest home so they will no longer carry. This results in a crazy weapons scramble and battle where Jews end up killing other Jews. . . on Shabbat. It reminds me how easy it is for battles to escalate when weapons are brought in. So scary to picture this. But we can see clearly that these Jewish individuals are going out to rescue, and that they do not want to be associated with violence on Shabbat any more than is necessary. So what of other kinds of battle?
Since the Gemara discussed war on Shabbat, the Gemara cites Rav Yehuda, who said that Rav said: With regard to non-Jews who besieged Jewish towns, they may not go out to fight against them with their weapons, nor may they desecrate Shabbat in any other way due to them, but rather they must wait until after Shabbat.
Sounds like we don’t defend on Shabbat. But we’re not done yet:
That was also taught in a baraita, with a caveat: With regard to gentiles who besieged, etc. In what case is this said? It is said in a case where the gentiles came and besieged the town with regard to monetary matters, i.e., banditry. However, if they came with regard to lives, they may go out against them with their weapons, and they may desecrate Shabbat due to them.
So, now it seems that we cannot go and fight if it’s merely the loss of property, however for loss of life we can and must. But again, we’re not done.
Even if the gentiles did not come with regard to lives, but rather with regard to matters of hay and straw, i.e., to raid and spoil the town, they may go out against them with their weapons, and they may desecrate Shabbat due to them.
Hay?
This makes me think of my least favorite of the many laws that scare me in Florida: Stand Your Ground. Stand Your Ground was originally intended to protect homeowners from being sued or arrested when protecting their homes from intruders. It was supposed to protect those who thought they were genuinely in fear for their life and the lives of those in their home. But what is it in practice? It’s a license to shoot, not just to protect life, but to protect property.
Worse. It has successfully been used to allow men to get away with shooting teenagers who they found “intimidating.” It’s lead to people getting shot in parking lots over disputes over a parking space. It’s lead to those who feel “threatened” to murder without recourse.
I know the Talmud does not want this – cannot imagine this. I don’t want it either. It’s an affront to God.
We don’t wear leather for fear of reminding God of what we do to animals. What abotu what we do to one another?




