Earlier this week we had some annoying students on the daf. Today, we get some students who won’t stop questioning – but it’s good because it helps to make the law more clear. They ask good questions and their teacher responds to each with patience and clarity.
The students of Rabbi Shimon ben Yoḥai asked Rabbi Shimon ben Yoḥai: With regard to one who was a pure nazirite and a leper, what is the halakha concerning the possibility that he may shave one shaving and it will count for him both for this and for that? In other words, can it serve for his shaving of leprosy as well as for his naziriteship? He said to them: He may not shave once for both requirements.
It could have stopped here, but the students want to know why:
They said to him: Why not? He said to them: If the aim of both shavings were the same, this one to grow hair and that one to grow hair, or this one to remove hair and that one to remove hair, you would have spoken well. Now in actual fact the two shavings have different functions: A nazirite shaves to remove his hair, and a leper shaves to grow hair, so that he can shave again after the days of his counting.
It could have stopped here but they still want to know why, if both require shaving, he can’t double count the days as going towards both his lepracy and his nazariteship.
His students posed another question: But even if his shaving of naziriteship does not count for him as the shaving of the completion of his days of confirmed leprosy, let it at least count for him as the shaving at the end of the days of his counting, which is not followed by another act of shaving, and therefore is performed only for the purpose of removing his hair. And Rabbi Shimon ben Yoḥai said to them: If this one were performed before the sprinkling of blood and that one before the sprinkling of blood, you would have spoken well. However, a leper shaves before the sprinkling of his offering’s blood, and a nazirite does so after the sprinkling of the blood. Therefore, the two shavings are not equivalent.
And it could have stopped here, but, you guessed it, they still don’t see the difference of his status before they sprinkle blood for either the lepracy or the nazariteship . . .
Rabbi Shimon ben Yoḥai’s students asked him yet another question: And granted that his shaving does not count for his days of leprosy and his naziriteship, let it at least count for his days of leprosy and his shaving of naziriteship of impurity, both of which are performed before the sprinkling of the blood. He said to them: If this one shaved before his immersion in water, and that one before immersion in water, you would have spoken well. However, an impure nazirite shaves after immersion in water, whereas a leper shaves before immersion in water.
It could have stopped here. In fact, the students even say:
They said to Rabbi Shimon ben Yoḥai: You have spoken well, and convinced us that one shaving should not count for the days of his counting and for his naziriteship.
But they’re not done.
But why not say that it should at least count for his days of confirmed leprosy and his naziriteship of impurity, as the purpose of this shaving is to grow hair and the purpose of that one is to grow hair.
The answer: He said to them: Here too the acts of shaving for naziriteship and leprosy are not exactly the same: If he is a pure nazirite and he is also a leper, the difference is that the aim of this one, the shaving of a leper, is to grow hair, and the aim of that one, the shaving of the pure nazirite, is to remove his hair. And if he is an impure nazirite and he is also a leper, the difference is that this shaving, of a leper, occurs before immersion in water, and that one, the shaving of an impure nazirite, is performed after immersion in water.
All this to prove that, while the shavings look the same – they’re not, and therefore, each needs it’s own counting.
Why do I like this? I just love that the students don’t stop questioning until they really get it. Often we will ask one question and then stop there not wanting to seem stupid – but sometimes it takes a half dozen questions or more before we can really understand what’s going on.
Thank goodness that Rabbi Shimon ben Yoḥai was such a patient person. May we all have teachers as patient as him.